“Apple’s at $4 trillion, and Musk’s compensation in his latest plan is geared to a $10 trillion valuation,” Sorrell told the audience. “I have no doubt that Musk or Tesla will get to that valuation. At some point, we’ll have a $10 trillion company. To put that into perspective, other than the United States and China, a $10 trillion company would effectively be the third-biggest [economy in the world]. They’re nation-states. The ability of governments to control them, I think, has become limited.”

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Fortune

Martin Sorrell says AI has already ‘missed the Oppenheimer moment’

When it comes to AI, it’s already too big for governments to regulate, says WPP founder Martin Sorrell.

The fact that this is even possible tells us all we need to know about whether capitalism, as we currently practice it, is the economic model we should be adhering to.

Engines have been redesigned to make them better. Computers have been redesigned to make them better. Governments have been redesigned to make them better.

The pattern is the same for all technologies, except for one: our economic system.* It lies stagnant. We need to redesign the system. The current model might be better than many previous iterations, but that doesn't make it perfect. It is clearly __very broken__, and we are witnessing the effects as it destroys everything around us -- our government, culture, and personal lives -- with its instability. Even our recent political turmoil can be traced back to this as a major factor.

*(Yes, forms of government are technologies, as are economic systems. Thinking of them that way might feel unfamiliar, but this is exactly the deficiency I am pointing out.)

Our economic system should not even admit the possibility of a billionaire, much less a trillionaire.

We need to closely examine why wealth continues to accrue in the hands of the few who are already wealthy, and evaporate from the savings of the common people. This is blatant, I repeat BLATANT, evidence of rent-seeking behavior.

Rent-seeking is an economics term, for those who aren't familiar:

"Rent seeking is an economic practice where individuals or businesses aim to increase their wealth without contributing to society's overall value, often undermining market efficiency."

EDIT: Here's the source of that quote:
investopedia.com/terms/r/rents

Investopedia

What Is Rent Seeking in Economics, and What Are Some Examples?

Rent seeking is an economic concept that occurs when an entity seeks to gain added wealth without any reciprocal contribution of productivity.

Now, if you are a shareholder and own some portion of a business, but don't actively contribute to that business's success by working there, and instead get dividends simply for existing as a shareholder, what is actually happening in this picture? You are increasing your wealth without actually contributing to society's overall value. In other words, being a shareholder is by definition rent-seeking behavior.

The standard for-profit corporation operates this way. They are owned by third parties who do not actively contribute. Every one of these companies is actively scraping wealth out of the hands of the workers and customers, with every economic exchange, and putting that wealth into the hands of these invisible shareholders. They are literally wealth-extraction machines.

There are an estimated 33 million businesses in the US alone. Large corporations, which are overwhelmingly following the model I described above, account for approximately 56% of total revenue. That means about half of the money that changes hands in economic exchanges in the US passes through the hands of these wealth extraction machines.

clearlypayments.com/blog/the-n

Credit Card Processing and Merchant Account

The Number of Businesses in the USA and Statistics for 2024

The United States has 33.2 million of businesses in 2024. This article include various statistics on business statistics on sectors and more.

We have literally constructed a system that is designed to concentrate wealth, at scale, by extracting it from workers and consumers.

Now, if anybody who is a die-hard Capitalist indoctrinated into the American Way reads me saying things like this, the inevitable response is something along the lines of, "What alternative do we have? Communism!? That doesn't work!"

I question whether socialism or communism (no they are not the same thing) have truly been given a proper go, but that's beside the point. We have options that are a smaller leap from our current setup: Focused bug fixes that represent small, incremental changes in the right direction that don't threaten the stability of the system. We can do those things with minimal risk, and, from there, figure out how to continue to improve things.

Maybe in the long run we'll end up at a socialist or communist system, or maybe not, but wherever we take it, if we continue to improve our system through continued, gradual change instead of digging in our heals, we will end up with a system that is better than what we have. That's worthwhile, IMO. And not Scary.

Aaron

@hosford42@techhub.social

One option is a UBI. A UBI can be implemented in an extremely gradual fashion. If you're scared of disrupting the economy and disincentivizing work, fine. Do it like you get in the pool: Dip your toes in first. Ease in, one step at a time, and stop if it turns out to be a bad idea. (It won't.) There's no reason to jump in, and there's no reason not to test it out if it might fix some of our economic woes.

November 5, 2025 at 6:42:33 PM

Another option is taxes. Of course the knee-jerk reaction is taxes = bad, "They're tryin'a take mah money!" But you're not a millionaire and you're never going to be one. You're damn sure not a billionaire. And trillionaire? We will all laugh in your face if you think that's ever going to happen. Those guys at the top aren't going to give up their spots.

A progressive wealth or income tax, or a tax on corporate profits, can move a lot of money out of the hands of those where it is overly concentrated, and put it back in service of those it was wrested from through rent-seeking corporations. But again, we can dip our toes in, so there's no reason to be scared of drastic changes. We can introduce it in minor increments and observe the economic effects, backing out if it turns out to be a bad idea. (It won't.)

Another option is to incentivize other business models. Nudge people to create new coops, non-profits, or B corps. Nudge them towards exit-to-community. Disincentivize creation of publicly traded companies and IPOs. Again, these things can be done incrementally, while observing the effects. There is no reason to be afraid.

The fact that we just keep barreling along with this broken system that enables the uberwealthy to steal money right out of our pockets -- that is the root of the problem. We have to fix the leak, or at least add a bilge pump, or this ship is going to go down and take us with it.

Most of us know this. The problem is, the millionaires and billionaires own the government, so common sense solutions that mean they have fractionally less money will never get anywhere.

I'm aware. It's one thing to have a solution in hand. It's another to be able to implement it. I hope the uberwealthy realize how this eventually plays out if they don't back down. Revolutionary France. The people always win in the end. If they stand in our way, they will regret it, assuming they live to.

which French revolution? the one in the 18th century was a war of the upper classes and led to Jacobins and Bolshevism. the one in the 19th century ended with the Paris communards being massacred.

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